What’s eating McCain?
Why, it’s Nurglon:
http://aryngve.blogspot.com/2008/10/distress-call-from-nurglons-mouth-may.html

While it’s unfair to judge a broad-based party by the actions of a clearly demented few, it is fair to judge Obama for sitting in Trinity Church for 20 years listening to the sermons of hate.

While McCian can’t control who showed up at his rally the other day, Obama was in full control as he walked into Sunday services in Trinity church week after week for 20 years to hear sermons of hate from an adulturous minister who asked his god to damn America.

Jack, old friend, you parry like a professional fencer. Here’s an exercise: Try completing a point without using the words “Wright,” “Ayers” or “ACORN.” Better yet, try answering a serious question without posing an unrelated question. For once.

John, like many poli-trolls your behaviour is noticed by more people thatn you think. Take Noah’s words to heart and engage in conversation rather than simply spewing rhetoric.

McCain is not being judged on the behaviour of his audience so much as the tone of the meetings and the fact that a true man of honor would have quelled the controversial statements immediately when the first one reared its head.

You might want to steer clear of HumidCity.com John, our commenters are nowhere near so gentle with regurgitated talking points as I am.

What is a poli-troll a person that disagrees with your political opinions? Your cronies are the holders of the truth and anyone that disagrees is a spewer of rhetoric?

IMHO, BO should be judged on his behavior and the tone of the meetings and the fact that a true man of honor would have left the controversial church immediately not 20 years later when the public took notice of the filth that passed as worship in his former congregation by his former minister.

“… the fact that a true man of honor would have left the controversial church immediately not 20 years later when the public took notice of the filth that passed as worship in his former congregation by his former minister.”

Immediately. Obviously this doesn’t apply to women. Palin and Anti-Witchcraft Minister

Immediately. It apparently also doesn’t apply to Sarah Palin’s associations with and Todd Palin’s membership in the Alaska Independence Party for eight years, the same party whose leader said “I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America and her damned institutions … And I won’t be buried under their damn flag.”

Judge now.

“Obviously this doesn’t apply to women.”

More misogyny from you guys, why the attack on women, can’t we keep your hate directed to just Ms. Palin.

My understanding is Joe Vogler made his comments about the flag at about the same time William Ayres was trying to blow up the Pentagon, and Vogler never resorted to terrorism. Did Md. Palin ever even meet Vogler? BO was a close and important associate of Reverand Wright and Ayres.

“More misogyny from you guys, why the attack on women, can’t we keep your hate directed to just Ms. Palin.”

I am a woman, John. You said “a true man of honor” and my statement implied what about true women of honor?

Vogler’s party is known as the Alaska Independence Party for which Palin gave talks and, like I said, her husband belonged to the party. Wright said “god damn America” while a preacher whom McCain hung out with said that Katrina was God’s punishment for all of New Orleans’s homosexuals. Ayers bombed govt. buildings while Obama was 8 and has since rehabilitated himself into society and Obama and Ayers are on one, read one, charitable board.

For each sideways association with someone somewhat sketchy you can bring up for Obama, one can be easily found for McCain or Palin, so the point is that this is a fruitless track. Do you have any actual issues to talk about?

Humid City still exists? It’s been off my radar since Loki called Sarah Palin a whore. I’d like to read of someone telling Obama to shut his legs and read a book, or call O’Biden a puppet. Ever get an opening consonant stuck in your throat? No, Joe, Sarah must be putting on the Irish. You people sure offer hope for unity under your dictatorship with the bullying that goes on.

In terms of what most people on blogs are discussing, it is mass media focus and mass media punditry and analysis that bloggers are buying into, including those from Gambit. Since most of you regularly decry the spin and skewed presentations with regard to that which you know about personally - like New Orleans/Katrina - why are you going with the talking points at all now? You aren’t articulating original thought, you are just picking up lingo and putting your emotions into those boxes.

I’m voting for McCain because I’m not willing to turn the American economy over to someone too young and inexperienced to even know who to call on. None of Obama’s specifics flesh out for this crisis, just like none of his previous rhetoric scored logically with what he as a lawyer knows he CAN implement. I am not willing to turn over leadership to unknowns, which is what you are getting with his policy advisers. The Democrats think it’s going to be the Clinton team, but it isn’t. The veep choice showed that: he picked the least popular opposition candidate. Blind ambition and ego lead this man.

I’m also not into greater spending plans with the current deficit. I didn’t vote for Bush either time. I’m not stupid or racist - it’s called having another VIABLE point of view, hello? - but I am fed up with reading attack insertions even into “Palin-free” areas, and I hope Gambit can get this under control soon. I’ve been relatively cordial so far, ducking out of conversations, but that can change. Who’s in charge here? Kevin? Clancy?

Maitri, Noah set the tone. He’s not talking issues but atmospherics. Don’t blame John in this case then, blame Noah.

Frank Rich has a pointed op-ed in today’s NYT on all of this and more: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/opinion/12rich.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin.

The point of my post is that when your own inflammatory rhetoric causes you to lose control of your crowds and threatens the safety of your opponent, atmospherics become the issue. After Paris Hilton, The One, sex ed for 5-year-olds, that one, Barack Hussein Obama palling around with terrorists, and the rest, with this latest shameful round, the rational right is finally letting its disapproval of Steve Schmidt’s campaign tactics be heard. John, do your party’s desperate actions of late give you even a minute’s pause? Or are you perfectly OK with them? Would you prefer McCain to lose with honor, or win at any cost? You seem to have very strong opinions, and you comment on this blog as much as any other reader. I’d love to see what happens when you color inside the lines for once. Carmen, you have the opposite problem — you simply spew paragraph after paragraph of anti-Obama (and, now, anti-me) venom in every post you pollute. Please remember that you are a guest here, and not in a position to be making any kind of power play. Personally, I think they ought to take away your crayons.

And the right answer to “He’s an Arab” is “So what?”

“I’m also not into greater spending plans with the current deficit. I didn’t vote for Bush either time. I’m not stupid or racist - it’s called having another VIABLE point of view, hello? - but I am fed up with reading attack insertions even into “Palin-free” areas, and I hope Gambit can get this under control soon. I’ve been relatively cordial so far, ducking out of conversations, but that can change. Who’s in charge here? Kevin? Clancy?”

For what it’s worth - I don’t think you’re racist at all, nor uninformed; you’ve taken the same facts that Noah, Maitri, Loki, and others have taken and drawn different conclusions.

I would love to have a guest blog entry where you fleshed out the arguments you made here - in all the writing and talking that’s been done about this campaign, I have yet to see the POV of someone who’s voting McCain but didn’t vote for Bush. It’s a voice that hasn’t been heard, and you’re right about the echo chamber.

So if you want to, I’d love to have you guest-blog an editorial with your point of view. We don’t pay much (it buys lunch if your tastes aren’t fancy), but it pays more than Huffington does.

Drop me an email if you’re interested - it’s first name last initial no spaces at gambitweekly dot com.

If the McCain ticket wants to question Obama’s affiliations that’s fair game in American politics. My issue is with the presentation. I don’t see how anyone in the country would gain from a percentage of the population thinking he’s a terrorist. I have not been a fan of George Bush’s policies but how much of his agenda has failed because there are too many people who automatically think it’s a right wing conspiracy when he says something? What’s going to happen is that one of these men is going to win and half the country is going to already dislike them before they have had a chance to do anything.